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At this stage I inform the person that they are under arrest for failure to identify and instruct them to get out of the vehicle. (A quick side note, understand that we can tell/order you out of the vehicle at any time, even at the very beginning of the encounter and we do not have to provide a reason. FYI: this is typically done though for our safety.) I will employ rule #2b again, tell/order them to exit the vehicle three times, even though we are now in the realm of rule #2c, make. A brief pause here will reveal that at the end of this series of events, I will have given the driver a minimum of nine (9) opportunities to comply. I don’t know a single parent who is that patient with a three-yearold, but of course, the similitude between our driver and a threeyear-old cannot go unnoticed.